Last time I posted here, I mentioned the interview I had, and that I was going back on Wednesday. How did that go? Well I'll tell ya!
I got to the office at about 9 am, and the group was still in some meeting. Oh wait, I need to give some background... I was given the impression that this was a *marketing* job, with maybe just a bit of selling, and having connections with local buisnesses and the local community. Okay, sounds reasonable, I get to meet some new people, shoot the shit with them, and thats about it, right? Okay back to the beginning... The boss or whoever was yelling about something, and they were chanting the most asinine things--like when the boss would say "does that make sense?" Everyone would yell "Sense!". That rose a red flag there--anything like that is definitely smacks of "clone" behavior. After being kept waiting in the lobby about 20-25 minutes, I finally meet the guy I would be with all day. He seemed like a nice enough dude, and he also had an assistant who was cool too. Hmm, whats this, his car is literally jam-packed with boxes of stuff. Thats interesting.
Then on the car ride over to the "territory", he starts to set everything up for me. It was really then that I started to realise what we were doing, and what were the mechanisms of how we were compensated, and such. In my mind, that raised a gigantic RED FLAG. I didn't exactly realise that it was a bonafide Pyramid Scheme at that point, but I was wary. But because I had made a commitment to spend a day with them, I would honor that commitment.
We pull into a shopping center most of the places were closed, so we stopped for breakfast (at frigging...McDonalds...ick! If I wasnt so friggin hungry I wouldnt have eaten at all). So the guy explains to me exactly what we would be doing; what I initially thought it would be was probably checking up on already existing clients and contacts, and maybe making a few new sales here or there. As I was told (or perhaps as I made up in my mind...) was that this was primarily *not* a selling job. But what we did was the following: go around to every buisness in this strip mall (and then another, and then another, and then a few more...), lugging a huge box of crap that retails for outrageously low prices, and try to get the poor suckers to buy it. And quite a few did. Fortunately, at least for me, they didnt make me carry anything--in fact the guys I spent the day with were for the most part, two fantastic guys, who I guess the guy described as "the top sales leader" was someone who easily recognized he could manipulate the pyramid to his advantage, and in the short term put in a shitload of work, but climb easily and live off of others, and the other was just some dumb kid who I imagined they suckered into lugging this shit around, because its better than working at McDonalds. And I'm guessing what the manager of the place saw in me was someone like the top sales guy--someone who was more than smart enough to know that I could manipulate the system to not only my favor, but of course his as well.
It was already around noon that I was just about dog tired. The sales guy mentioned "did you wear comfortable shoes today" And I said "sort of", which was my best code for "Are you fucking crazy? I didn't know I was going to be walking this much, and the only shoes I own right now that could accomadate that are sandals". He had explained the pyramid fairly well to me: I sell a little bit, and hope to make a staggering $60-$80 *per day* (OOOHHHH!!!) and if I got good in a month or two, I might be making $100 a day (double OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH). But get this--the work day, with the morning and evening meetings included, works out to be 12 hours. So yes, if you are making $60 a day for $12 work, you are making less than the minimum wage in California. If youre making $100 over the same day, you're making less hourly than I'm making at my custodian's job. Yes, I know how to do math. Just barely though. Again, if I'm a stiff who's working a shit job, that doesnt look half bad. Fortunately, I'm not. And look at this, he's already training other guys, and he's been here for 3 fucking months, *and* he's the top salesman. It was really then that I wanted to get the hell out of there, but the sense of honor in me says "I know this is wrong--I shouldn't be here, but I don't want to disrupt his work by making him take me all the back to the office to retrieve my car, and I should at least live up to the commitment I made for the day".
Now keep in mind, its about 2:30-3:00, and of course the crappy little egg mcmuffin wasn't nearly enough to suffice, and I was starving like a mofo. But not wanting to impose, I didn't say anything (I'm so dumb sometimes...). The guy then makes his best pitch to try and reel me in, and comes up with this gem. And I'm not making this up, though it may not be an exact quote:
Some people want to say this is a pyramid scheme. This is not a pyramid scheme, this is multi-tiered marketing. OHHHHHHHHHH OKAY! Like I was going to fall for that Jedi Mind trick. Nice try, Obi-Wan. After his explaination, I simply said "I understand completely", and left it at that.
So we head over to yet another strip mall, this one really pretty dilapidated. I really wanted to get out of there by then, and finally after the guy asks me " so what do you think?" I just say to him as politely as possible "this isn't what I expected, this job isn't right for me". Maybe he could offer to take me back to my car so I could leave, but no. Instead I end up tagging along with him to hustle another few folks.
Now comes the best part. After hitting up some grandmas at a meals-on-wheels place, the guy has the sheer BALLS to hustle a police substation. I knew this was going to be trouble. We walk in, and first thing out of the cops mouth is "do you have a peddler's permit" "OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT" was what I was thinking. But the guy was smoother than that, he just said "oh you know what, its in my car..." and the cop just said "well if anyone is interested in here, you can do buisness outside. One officer was actually genuinely interested in what they had to sell--although I imagine they were either setting him up, or just gathering more information on the company as a whole.
We move on to a laundromat next door, who are apparantly regular customers, and the cop we just sold to waves for me to come over. She says to me "if you have anymore books (she had bought some crapply little disney book set supposedly worth $100 for $7...) or anything else (we were also selling watch sets, duffel bags and pretend computers for kids) someone in the station would be willing to buy". Knowing that the guy I'm with is a total hustler and won't turn down a potential sale, I tell him this, and he says "sure, go tell them once the other guy gets back, we'll sell them anything they want". Obviously it was a ploy by the police to clue me into what was really going on here, as if I didn't already know. After I walk in, another cop pulls me aside and says "look, you've gotta stop selling if you don't have a license" and of course not wanting to get my only ride arrested, I say "oh, it was my understanding that they had them" which actually it was, as the guy said he had "left his license at home", and I knew nothing further than that. I also tell this cop "I'm not an employee of theirs" and the cop says "I know. Someone I know was an employee of theirs. They are selling without the proper license. They need to get them if they are going to keep doing this stuff." to which I reply "look...I know there are some hijinks going on, and I was basically hoodwinked into being here. I don't want to be doing this anymore.. But if the sales guy comes back, don't tell him. I said any of that. What I will do for you is tell the manager when I get back the office what you said" (which is what I did). Eventually, the two sales guys did apparantly make some sales, then from what I understand, they "nicely" gave the salesmen some proper paperwork as to what exactly constitutes a selling license in that city, and they need to have with them. They could have arrested both those guys right there on the spot, and possibly me as well, though I doubt it because I wasn't actually an employee and I wasn't doing any selling. Actually that was really nice of the police. So even in my most negative anti-estabilishment mood, I can at least say the police have done one considerate thing that has directly affected me.
Around 4, its getting cold, dark, and I'm hungry as fuck. But no, we have to *keep on selling*. We hit up another questional strip mall, then another small one, then the dude starts hitting up these awful dive bars on the way back to the office. Places I wouldn't go to in a million years, even if I liked bars. Finally, *FINALLY*, about 5:30 since by that time we were near the main office, he offered to drop me back there so I could leave since it was clear I wasn't interested in being with them anymore. I thanked him for the oppertunity (sheer politeness there), and that I wished him good luck in the future (a near lie by me, I hope that company rots in hell). I went in and told the manager that "I'm not interested in any aspect of this job, and that its simply not for me". I told him there was "way too much selling for me", to which replied "but thats just the probationary period" to which I shot back "no, selling like that is not for me, sorry". I also told him what the officer said to me earlier in the day--that they were aware of the questionable legality of their selling practices, to which the manager replied "oh no I have a license, they are wrong". I just replied with "well I just want you to be informed of whats going on, so you don't get in trouble", my code for "youre lucky there isnt a cop car sitting out front right now, either to tell you they arrested your sellers, or to arrest you personally".
After I got to my car, I let my anger loose for a few moments. At the moment, I was mainly mad at myself, because after all, how could I be so blind as to not realise such an obvious scam! But then I realise I was tricked with vague double speak into this job. And I was too desperate for a chance, and I did almost no research on the company. I was wary of the fact that the company wasn't at all the same one that advertised and that I had sent in a resume to on Yahoo! (and I don't think I'll be using their job services again...), but I saw "marketing", thought thats what it was, and not direct door-to-door selling, and also the oppertunities for advancement. But at least I can say that I did quickly realise the scheme, and I only have one shitty day to show it for, instead of weeks, months, or possibly years wasted of my life.
And now for the name of the company, in big, bold letters:
INNOVAGE.
Do not deal with this company in away. Stay away from the company that contacted me also, Parker Imports/Terra Wholesale. This is a pyramid scheme.
Some helpful links also relating similar experiences...
http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff127446.htm
http://www.balgavy.com/blog/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=643
http://www.wahm.com/boards/Forum39/HTML/000056.html
http://www.wahm.com/boards/Forum39/HTML/000056.html
Unfortunately those were the only references I could find. A google search with the keywords "Innovage Pyramid Scheme" only yields 5 pages of results, and many are due to Innovage selling a pyramid-shaped speaker. But those relay similar experiences to what I had.
Oh, and all of the state ballot measures that I wrote about several days back failed. I guess more commentary on that later...